From unimog61 at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 18 00:21:02 2010
From: unimog61 at shaw.ca (Paul)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 22:21:02 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Selling my trailer
In-Reply-To: <1E5C3A7236404BEE838F87005C07770D@MHISCOX290>
Message-ID: <C890BBCE.314%unimog61@shaw.ca>


I am selling my 1.5 ton trailer. I can deliver to NWMF.
Cost is $500.00
It's in good shape, has some surface rust. Tires are 20" split rims.
Tows very well behind a 404 or the 1300L
Has air over hydraulic brakes, but the glad hands have been cut off.

Pictures at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39448579 at N03/


Paul




From arcticcat99 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 18 07:51:03 2010
From: arcticcat99 at hotmail.com (-Bob -)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:51:03 -0600
Subject: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
In-Reply-To: <705815.80743.qm@web38407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT143-w313C6216D7DE61B3A4680DB79C0@phx.gbl>,
	<705815.80743.qm@web38407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT143-w1669148A26AFBBFB481A9DB79D0@phx.gbl>


thank you Bob, just a brain fart, after working on old vehicles all these years I forgot the #1 rule, ground everything to everything.  I don't have a spare 12 volt battery laying around at the moment.

> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:50:24 -0700
> From: tenn404mogger at yahoo.com
> To: mog at tx4x4.com
> Subject: Re: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
> 
> A 110 ac to 12 vdc 'converter' (power supply) should power a timing light.  Did you provide a common ground from the power supply negative lead to the truck in addition to the timing light's pickup lead?
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- On Tue, 8/17/10, -Bob - <arcticcat99 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: -Bob - <arcticcat99 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
> > To: mog at tx4x4.com
> > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:04 PM
> > 
> > just a quick question regarding timing lights.  why
> > does a 110v to 12v converter not power it?
> > does it need the 12+ to 13+  or so volts a battery
> > provides to power it? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > bob in alberta
> > 71 swiss 404
> >     
> >         
> 
> 
>       
> 
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From walderse at viclink.com  Wed Aug 18 08:09:36 2010
From: walderse at viclink.com (James Molloy)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 06:09:36 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Need to do some learnin' @ NWMF
In-Reply-To: <8CD0C9B75A21BAD-E44-A9E9@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <91d5d.3e1a3a82.39940f9a@aol.com>
	<8CD0C9B75A21BAD-E44-A9E9@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <91D831CF8A65486097D9C1049D4A3D04@EMILIE>

Tony,

It is my belief that all the trucks are a secondary benefit of any NWMF
event. It is the people who attend and their interactions that make this
such an interesting and enjoyable activity. Even when we are faced with
unexpected change or the occasional inappropriate behaving individual, the
strength, adaptability, ingenuity and caring people in this group of
individuals demonstrate is...priceless.

Like this mailing list, the collective fund of knowledge of those at NWMF is
staggering. I spent time yesterday morning with a retired Dutch electrical
engineer/business administration university professor bringing a four
element generator-driven light tower back to full function. An absolutely
beautiful metal sculpture was being created by and artist who was also
mowing out posrtons of teh obstacle course with our tractor. Later, several
of the staff were tweaking the projector for our outdoor theater. We even
discussed the soon-to-be-unveiled kleinmantisgelandewagen. The number of
ideas that get generated here when people start pinging off of each other is
amazing.

Great ideas are always welcome at NWMF but our unwritten rule for some time
has been that someone must take responsibility for making such an idea bear
fruit. Every one of your ideas mentioned below is great. Had you been on the
farm yesterday, you would have seen no less that five 404s (one with an
OM617A turbo-diesel conversion) being tweaked and otherwise made ready for
the upcoming event. There is a very strong collective knowledge base already
on the farm right now and if will grow even stronger as the next few days
pass. 

My suggestion would be that you take on the responsibility of bringing this
idea of an Unimog 404 classroom to maturity. I certainly would have welcomed
such an resource for information when I was first getting started with my
trucks. Two possibilities are to: 1) poll the members on this list as to who
will be attending NWMF and would be willing to be involved in this type of
training and 2) arrive at Waldersee Farm/NWMF as soon as possible so the
logistics can be coordinated. We just printed off out hand drawn (thank you
Ryan Gerrish) maps of the farm yesterday for distribution as people arrive.
Knowing ASAP where and when you would like to have these classes held will
help minimize any conflict with other scheduled activities. As far as
recruitment from this list goes, I would suggest asking respondents to do so
off list to avoid unnecessary list dialogue.

Your idea is not too formal by any means. I have always wanted to see
something along these lines at past NWMF events but just never had the time.
It will simply take effort and determination on your part to see this
through.

Take care and see you very soon.

Jim Molloy
Waldersee Farm
http://www.northwestmogfest.com
http://www.volvo4x4.com


-----Original Message-----
From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Day
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:21 PM
To: mog at tx4x4.com
Subject: [MOG] Need to do some learnin' @ NWMF



NWMF folks,
I don't know if I missed it last year because I didn't know all of what 
goes on or because I was just to overwhelmed with the whole Mog Fest 
event and was in the wrong place at the right time,
but are there any (for lack of a better word) classes @ NWMF on 404 
basic knowledge?

Would one or more Zenith NDIX carb experts be willing to teach me and / 
or maybe a group of novices how to setup and tweak in a / my 404 unimog?

For that matter are there any other little sessions we can have on 
general tweaks and adjustments, like brakes, or maybe dialing in the 
timing on a 24V system with a 12V light like Bob just asked.

And if/when there is an off road trail excursion, maybe a do's and 
don'ts from the old salts on trail basics (lockers, etiquette, 
equipment, winching).

Or is this just to formal an idea?
Just wundering.......

Thanx

Tony
Kennewick, WA
66'TLF-8

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From history at frii.com  Wed Aug 18 08:10:29 2010
From: history at frii.com (history at frii.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:10:29 -0600
Subject: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
Message-ID: <fee22dedb133916092d3e3f801035abf@localhost>

To power my timing light for MOG tuning, I just pull up my other truck,
leave it running, and use its 
battery as my power supply.  I've not grounded them together, but I get
reasonable results.
Not sure what would happen if I did ground them together...  would it
work?  would it produce a 
mog/toyota cross breed?
Joe
404.114 Cheyenne WY.


From williamdm47 at msn.com  Wed Aug 18 11:41:19 2010
From: williamdm47 at msn.com (William Mesce)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:41:19 -0400
Subject: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
In-Reply-To: <8CD0C9C29930CAD-E44-AA16@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>
References: <AANLkTinLD+Hz2ZaFKZzySK49zFNdh7frK6f401HjMuDL@mail.gmail.com>,
	<listhandler=2&site=mogmsgexch.com&nid=948&pid=0&cid=4676&uid=15&tid=4&05e0b2cf93e876e560da9113612c841f@mogmsgexch.com>,
	<8CD0C9C29930CAD-E44-AA16@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W35CAED07C8869480FE6964B49D0@phx.gbl>


Thank you Tony. That is exactly what I was trying to say.
 
Thanks for making it clear,
Vietnam Bill
68 404.1
 
> To: mog at tx4x4.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:25:38 -0400
> From: quarkz at email.com
> Subject: Re: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
> 
> strap out = connect to
> like this
> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2343500350105505321aqEoUG
> 
> Tony
> Kennewick, WA
> 66' TLF-8
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mogcamp at hotmail.com
> To: mog at tx4x4.com
> Sent: Tue, Aug 17, 2010 8:07 pm
> Subject: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
> 
> 
> vitenam Bill said.... "just a reminder to strap out the negitive lead 
> if you use a 3rd battery" 
>   
> Bill... what is "strap out"? 
>  
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From williamdm47 at msn.com  Wed Aug 18 12:13:57 2010
From: williamdm47 at msn.com (William Mesce)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:13:57 -0400
Subject: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
In-Reply-To: <fee22dedb133916092d3e3f801035abf@localhost>
References: <fee22dedb133916092d3e3f801035abf@localhost>
Message-ID: <SNT125-W29D309EA470FE9C527DF19B49D0@phx.gbl>


Joe,
When I tried using a 3rd battery without the negitive leads bonded (straped) together, I ended up with very inconsistent results.
Some time the timing light would flash, most time it wouldn't. I bought another timing light and got the same results.
 
Someone on the list told me about the negitive bond thing and put my world back in order.
 
Great List, great info,  great friends...
 
Vietnam Bill
68 404.1
 
 
 
 
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:10:29 -0600
> From: history at frii.com
> To: mog at tx4x4.comnegitives 
> Subject: Re: [MOG] Electrical question, power for timing light
> 
> To power my timing light for MOG tuning, I just pull up my other truck,
> leave it running, and use its 
> battery as my power supply. I've not grounded them together, but I get
> reasonable results.
> Not sure what would happen if I did ground them together... would it
> work? would it produce a 
> mog/toyota cross breed?
> Joe
> 404.114 Cheyenne WY.
> 
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From mhiscox01 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 18 12:36:15 2010
From: mhiscox01 at comcast.net (Michael Hiscox)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:36:15 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Save-A-Mog Foundation, etc.
Message-ID: <7B91C5B6CB264D62A6256337285C460C@MHISCOX290>

Paul sent me a question last night about Camper Mog which is likely of general interest, so I figured I'd post my response . . . 

"Hi Mike: Out of curiosity. How much are you hoping to get? Paul"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for the question, Paul. Been quieter than I'd have liked on this topic. Maybe everyone's just waiiting for MogFest.

As-is, where-is, $10K will cover what I've got in it. I'd want about $13K if I leave the new owner my generator, inverter, expensive 12/24 V battery  charger, all my tools, etc.

If I get stuck doing the engine rebuild and install and other small commissioning tasks, I assume it will go back on the market at something over $40K, given the new paint, seats, etc. and up-to-spec engine.

Of note to a small segment of people, the cabin by itself is valuable--heck, Unicat sells one the same size for 160,0000 Euros ;-)--so if you want the truck and not the cabin, we should talk, and if you want the cabin and not the truck, we should talk. By far, though, highest and best use is as an intact long-distance expedition motorhome.

Finally, I know where to get a good condition rebuildable engine if a prospective buyer does not.

Thanks for the interest,

Mike Hiscox

From bcaid at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 18 12:46:00 2010
From: bcaid at yahoo.com (William Caid)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:46:00 -0600
Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Colorado Springs, CO
Message-ID: <8D0CB6F8-95A3-48DC-8246-6B629FF22148@yahoo.com>

Moggers:

We are "taking care of business" here in CO.  We have visited many folks including local moggers like Ron DePugh.

I have posted new photos on http://www.billcaid.com/2010/HogHunting20100323/Part29/Part29.html that include some interesting truck photos.

We are heading east from here, back to see Rob Pickering in La Junta and from there, southwest back to San Diego.  We will not be attending NWMF, it is just too far to go in a short time.  But, to those who attend, please give our regards to all.

Happy Mogging!

Best,

bc


Bill Caid
bcaid at yahoo.com (mobile)
(c) 619-994-0458





From quarkz at email.com  Wed Aug 18 13:22:56 2010
From: quarkz at email.com (Tony Day)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:22:56 -0400
Subject: [MOG] Need to do some learnin' @ NWMF
In-Reply-To: <91D831CF8A65486097D9C1049D4A3D04@EMILIE>
References: <91d5d.3e1a3a82.39940f9a@aol.com><8CD0C9B75A21BAD-E44-A9E9@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>
	<91D831CF8A65486097D9C1049D4A3D04@EMILIE>
Message-ID: <8CD0D1982B9897A-E44-E05D@web-mmc-d02.sysops.aol.com>

Thanx for the reply Jim,

I am hoping to be to Waldersee by early afternoon on Thursday.

The best (read as easiest) way I see this coming into existence is:

I will get a three sided white board and dry erase supplies, some blue 
painters taper, some seating, some beer (for instructors), popcorn with 
a hot air popper, and some fliers to add to the NWMF handout propaganda.

The white board will act on one side as both a sign up board for 
teaching and taking the classes as well as class suggestions, one side 
as a teaching easel and the last side as a general information kiosk, 
sign up for trail rides genreal point of interest.

Lastly I would ask if anyone would like to lead a how to class, don't 
be shy, share your knowledge it will be good for the hobby.  You can 
contact me off-list at quarkz at att.blackberry.net

My ideas from before for classes are:

1) Carburetor basics - cleaning, tuning, upgrades, Zenith NDIX carb or 
others, single dual setups, tweaks

2) Timing basics - how to use a 12V timing light w/ 24V system, what & 
where is TDC, &how many degrees BTDC do I really need

3) Brakes - How to service, adjust, adjust the parking brake, refurbish 
brake cylinder (I can do part of this one, does anyoine have and air 
assist unit that can be dissassembled for display?)

4) Pimp my Mog - upgrades, high compression heads, pertronix, crawler 
gears, tires and rims,

5)Trail Knowledge - Safety, Do's & Don'ts, winching for those around 
you, lockers, how to approach obstacles, what equipment should I have, 
leave no trace / tread lightly tail etiquette. what damage can a water 
crossing do to me?

Or if there is something else someone wants to address email me at 
quarkz at att.blackberry.net

If you want to learn show up to a session, even if there are no 
"Xperts" we can discuss and still learn from each other.

Off to get supplies.  Woo Hoo!

Tony Day
Kennewick, WA
66' TLF-8

  If you want to find me on site I am going to be where I was last year, 
down by the river entrance, and this is my mog

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2022848770105505321aZkaLl


-----Original Message-----
From: James Molloy <walderse at viclink.com>
To: 'Mog Mailing List' <mog at tx4x4.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 6:09 am
Subject: Re: [MOG] Need to do some learnin' @ NWMF


Tony,

It is my belief that all the trucks are a secondary benefit of any NWMF
event. It is the people who attend and their interactions that make this
such an interesting and enjoyable activity. Even when we are faced with
unexpected change or the occasional inappropriate behaving individual, 
the
strength, adaptability, ingenuity and caring people in this group of
individuals demonstrate is...priceless.

Like this mailing list, the collective fund of knowledge of those at 
NWMF is
staggering. I spent time yesterday morning with a retired Dutch 
electrical
engineer/business administration university professor bringing a four
element generator-driven light tower back to full function. An 
absolutely
beautiful metal sculpture was being created by and artist who was also
mowing out posrtons of teh obstacle course with our tractor. Later, 
several
of the staff were tweaking the projector for our outdoor theater. We 
even
discussed the soon-to-be-unveiled kleinmantisgelandewagen. The number of
ideas that get generated here when people start pinging off of each 
other is
amazing.

Great ideas are always welcome at NWMF but our unwritten rule for some 
time
has been that someone must take responsibility for making such an idea 
bear
fruit. Every one of your ideas mentioned below is great. Had you been 
on the
farm yesterday, you would have seen no less that five 404s (one with an
OM617A turbo-diesel conversion) being tweaked and otherwise made ready 
for
the upcoming event. There is a very strong collective knowledge base 
already
on the farm right now and if will grow even stronger as the next few 
days
pass.

My suggestion would be that you take on the responsibility of bringing 
this
idea of an Unimog 404 classroom to maturity. I certainly would have 
welcomed
such an resource for information when I was first getting started with 
my
trucks. Two possibilities are to: 1) poll the members on this list as 
to who
will be attending NWMF and would be willing to be involved in this type 
of
training and 2) arrive at Waldersee Farm/NWMF as soon as possible so the
logistics can be coordinated. We just printed off out hand drawn (thank 
you
Ryan Gerrish) maps of the farm yesterday for distribution as people 
arrive.
Knowing ASAP where and when you would like to have these classes held 
will
help minimize any conflict with other scheduled activities. As far as
recruitment from this list goes, I would suggest asking respondents to 
do so
off list to avoid unnecessary list dialogue.

Your idea is not too formal by any means. I have always wanted to see
something along these lines at past NWMF events but just never had the 
time.
It will simply take effort and determination on your part to see this
through.

Take care and see you very soon.

Jim Molloy
Waldersee Farm
http://www.northwestmogfest.com
http://www.volvo4x4.com


-----Original Message-----
 From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony
Day
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:21 PM
To: mog at tx4x4.com
Subject: [MOG] Need to do some learnin' @ NWMF



NWMF folks,
I don't know if I missed it last year because I didn't know all of what
goes on or because I was just to overwhelmed with the whole Mog Fest
event and was in the wrong place at the right time,
but are there any (for lack of a better word) classes @ NWMF on 404
basic knowledge?

Would one or more Zenith NDIX carb experts be willing to teach me and /
or maybe a group of novices how to setup and tweak in a / my 404 unimog?

For that matter are there any other little sessions we can have on
general tweaks and adjustments, like brakes, or maybe dialing in the
timing on a 24V system with a 12V light like Bob just asked.

And if/when there is an off road trail excursion, maybe a do's and
don'ts from the old salts on trail basics (lockers, etiquette,
equipment, winching).

Or is this just to formal an idea?
Just wundering.......

Thanx

Tony
Kennewick, WA
66'TLF-8

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From imjustdave at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 18 14:04:35 2010
From: imjustdave at hotmail.com (David Ashley)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:04:35 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS9C3026C84674F13BFBF0FC59D0@phx.gbl>

I know this should be a an obvious answer to a veteran to NWMF  but I'm
heading down from Seattle and it seems like every year I turn off of I5 at
different points.   But the first 2 years we went to browns point and the
3rd year I was at the ocean .. So  In terms of avoiding traffic  Is there a
recommend way?   I just remember the endless stop lights just after I5
before it opened up before the farm.    I know I could make a bunch of
pissed off people and cut across farm fields but the idea is to get there. 

 

If I'm reading Google maps correctly It looks like down I5 to Wilsonville
then cut across  otherwise the river cuts off anything until Salem.  

 

David Ashley 

87 U1250 VL 

 


From twlane57 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 14:59:22 2010
From: twlane57 at gmail.com (terry lane)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 12:59:22 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS9C3026C84674F13BFBF0FC59D0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS9C3026C84674F13BFBF0FC59D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikitVVtFK+vGLVOPfBs8hveS-vcRcWr5zVoTBvj@mail.gmail.com>

David---you need a TOM-TOM---good luck.
_--:)
TLane

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, David Ashley <imjustdave at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I know this should be a an obvious answer to a veteran to NWMF  but I'm
> heading down from Seattle and it seems like every year I turn off of I5 at
> different points.   But the first 2 years we went to browns point and the
> 3rd year I was at the ocean .. So  In terms of avoiding traffic  Is there a
> recommend way?   I just remember the endless stop lights just after I5
> before it opened up before the farm.    I know I could make a bunch of
> pissed off people and cut across farm fields but the idea is to get there.
>
>
>
> If I'm reading Google maps correctly It looks like down I5 to Wilsonville
> then cut across  otherwise the river cuts off anything until Salem.
>
>
>
> David Ashley
>
> 87 U1250 VL
>
>
>
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From imjustdave at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 18 15:02:08 2010
From: imjustdave at hotmail.com (David Ashley)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:02:08 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikitVVtFK+vGLVOPfBs8hveS-vcRcWr5zVoTBvj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS9C3026C84674F13BFBF0FC59D0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikitVVtFK+vGLVOPfBs8hveS-vcRcWr5zVoTBvj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT124-DS19EEB6C142BF8F69DD9B8FC59D0@phx.gbl>

Tlane 

I have a tom tom... but it doesn't have a setting for I'm driving a Unimog
and to avoid stop lights and traffic, find me offloading locations. Man
maybe I should ask tom tom to add that option... that would be really cool
:) 




-----Original Message-----
From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of
terry lane
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:59 PM
To: Mog Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MOG] Best route to NWMF

David---you need a TOM-TOM---good luck.
_--:)
TLane

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, David Ashley
<imjustdave at hotmail.com>wrote:

> I know this should be a an obvious answer to a veteran to NWMF  but I'm
> heading down from Seattle and it seems like every year I turn off of I5 at
> different points.   But the first 2 years we went to browns point and the
> 3rd year I was at the ocean .. So  In terms of avoiding traffic  Is there
a
> recommend way?   I just remember the endless stop lights just after I5
> before it opened up before the farm.    I know I could make a bunch of
> pissed off people and cut across farm fields but the idea is to get there.
>
>
>
> If I'm reading Google maps correctly It looks like down I5 to Wilsonville
> then cut across  otherwise the river cuts off anything until Salem.
>
>
>
> David Ashley
>
> 87 U1250 VL
>
>
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From twlane57 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 15:07:37 2010
From: twlane57 at gmail.com (terry lane)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:07:37 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-DS19EEB6C142BF8F69DD9B8FC59D0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-DS9C3026C84674F13BFBF0FC59D0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikitVVtFK+vGLVOPfBs8hveS-vcRcWr5zVoTBvj@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT124-DS19EEB6C142BF8F69DD9B8FC59D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikFFRyqrSiKdfHyKSriY17Wi=cPWRj9PEGtwNuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dave--you can't just enter the address of the Malloy farm and let TOMMY boy
 lead you in?---I drove there one time and James had to come and find
me---pre-TOM TOM days----and lead me in.
Tlane

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:02 PM, David Ashley <imjustdave at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Tlane
>
> I have a tom tom... but it doesn't have a setting for I'm driving a Unimog
> and to avoid stop lights and traffic, find me offloading locations. Man
> maybe I should ask tom tom to add that option... that would be really cool
> :)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of
> terry lane
> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:59 PM
> To: Mog Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
>
> David---you need a TOM-TOM---good luck.
> _--:)
> TLane
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, David Ashley
> <imjustdave at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I know this should be a an obvious answer to a veteran to NWMF  but I'm
> > heading down from Seattle and it seems like every year I turn off of I5
> at
> > different points.   But the first 2 years we went to browns point and the
> > 3rd year I was at the ocean .. So  In terms of avoiding traffic  Is there
> a
> > recommend way?   I just remember the endless stop lights just after I5
> > before it opened up before the farm.    I know I could make a bunch of
> > pissed off people and cut across farm fields but the idea is to get
> there.
> >
> >
> >
> > If I'm reading Google maps correctly It looks like down I5 to Wilsonville
> > then cut across  otherwise the river cuts off anything until Salem.
> >
> >
> >
> > David Ashley
> >
> > 87 U1250 VL
> >
> >
> >
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From brandon314 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 15:14:37 2010
From: brandon314 at gmail.com (Brandon)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:14:37 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikFFRyqrSiKdfHyKSriY17Wi=cPWRj9PEGtwNuQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-DS9C3026C84674F13BFBF0FC59D0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikitVVtFK+vGLVOPfBs8hveS-vcRcWr5zVoTBvj@mail.gmail.com>
	<SNT124-DS19EEB6C142BF8F69DD9B8FC59D0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikFFRyqrSiKdfHyKSriY17Wi=cPWRj9PEGtwNuQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-Aqqw=oQXMbR1WRF2HYkGcCsEVq7Q5ZJkijTD@mail.gmail.com>

I think that will push you through Tigard, which is stop light hell.

I'd come down I-5 south, when you enter PDX hit I-405 South

Then take the 26W exit (right lane, you'll pass through a tunnel).

Down-shift for the hill (404.1 radiobox makes it up at 40-45MPH) and keep
going until you see a split off for highway 6.

Take this (left) and when you see highway 47 South, take that.

Keep going until you end up in McMinnville. Hang a right...and drive out 99W
until it transitions into Highway 18 towards Sheridan.

Only traffic lights you'll see on that route are on 47 and in McMinnville.
Avoids Tigard and PDX mess mostly. :-)

Enjoy!

Brandon Mathis
KD7INF
(503) 476-9964
brandon314 at gmail.com


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM, terry lane <twlane57 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave--you can't just enter the address of the Malloy farm and let TOMMY boy
>  lead you in?---I drove there one time and James had to come and find
> me---pre-TOM TOM days----and lead me in.
> Tlane
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:02 PM, David Ashley <imjustdave at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Tlane
> >
> > I have a tom tom... but it doesn't have a setting for I'm driving a
> Unimog
> > and to avoid stop lights and traffic, find me offloading locations. Man
> > maybe I should ask tom tom to add that option... that would be really
> cool
> > :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of
> > terry lane
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:59 PM
> > To: Mog Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [MOG] Best route to NWMF
> >
> > David---you need a TOM-TOM---good luck.
> > _--:)
> > TLane
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, David Ashley
> > <imjustdave at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I know this should be a an obvious answer to a veteran to NWMF  but I'm
> > > heading down from Seattle and it seems like every year I turn off of I5
> > at
> > > different points.   But the first 2 years we went to browns point and
> the
> > > 3rd year I was at the ocean .. So  In terms of avoiding traffic  Is
> there
> > a
> > > recommend way?   I just remember the endless stop lights just after I5
> > > before it opened up before the farm.    I know I could make a bunch of
> > > pissed off people and cut across farm fields but the idea is to get
> > there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If I'm reading Google maps correctly It looks like down I5 to
> Wilsonville
> > > then cut across  otherwise the river cuts off anything until Salem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > David Ashley
> > >
> > > 87 U1250 VL
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Mog at tx4x4.com
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From tkv000 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 17:35:51 2010
From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:35:51 -0600
Subject: [MOG] Save-A-Mog Foundation, etc.
In-Reply-To: <7B91C5B6CB264D62A6256337285C460C@MHISCOX290>
References: <7B91C5B6CB264D62A6256337285C460C@MHISCOX290>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+VDHdnjf+tJwErL_EdBgPM1SYL24c0nGXqV6O@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

I'm familiar with the engine removal procedure on a regular 406/416, what
does it look like for this rig ?

-Trev, from my android mobile

On 2010-08-18 11:38 AM, "Michael Hiscox" <mhiscox01 at comcast.net> wrote:

Paul sent me a question last night about Camper Mog which is likely of
general interest, so I figured I'd post my response . . .

"Hi Mike: Out of curiosity. How much are you hoping to get? Paul"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks for the question, Paul. Been quieter than I'd have liked on this
topic. Maybe everyone's just waiiting for MogFest.

As-is, where-is, $10K will cover what I've got in it. I'd want about $13K if
I leave the new owner my generator, inverter, expensive 12/24 V battery
 charger, all my tools, etc.

If I get stuck doing the engine rebuild and install and other small
commissioning tasks, I assume it will go back on the market at something
over $40K, given the new paint, seats, etc. and up-to-spec engine.

Of note to a small segment of people, the cabin by itself is valuable--heck,
Unicat sells one the same size for 160,0000 Euros ;-)--so if you want the
truck and not the cabin, we should talk, and if you want the cabin and not
the truck, we should talk. By far, though, highest and best use is as an
intact long-distance expedition motorhome.

Finally, I know where to get a good condition rebuildable engine if a
prospective buyer does not.

Thanks for the interest,

Mike Hiscox
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From unimog61 at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 18 17:49:38 2010
From: unimog61 at shaw.ca (Paul)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:49:38 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Save-A-Mog Foundation, etc.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=+VDHdnjf+tJwErL_EdBgPM1SYL24c0nGXqV6O@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7B91C5B6CB264D62A6256337285C460C@MHISCOX290>
	<AANLkTi=+VDHdnjf+tJwErL_EdBgPM1SYL24c0nGXqV6O@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48AEA58C-8BDD-431F-9EF7-DD9210B86A39@shaw.ca>

Does she know you're asking these questions?
:)

Paul


On 2010-08-18, at 15:35, Trevor V <tkv000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I'm familiar with the engine removal procedure on a regular 406/416,  
> what
> does it look like for this rig ?
>
> -Trev, from my android mobile
>
> On 2010-08-18 11:38 AM, "Michael Hiscox" <mhiscox01 at comcast.net>  
> wrote:
>
> Paul sent me a question last night about Camper Mog which is likely of
> general interest, so I figured I'd post my response . . .
>
> "Hi Mike: Out of curiosity. How much are you hoping to get? Paul"
>
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> --- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thanks for the question, Paul. Been quieter than I'd have liked on  
> this
> topic. Maybe everyone's just waiiting for MogFest.
>
> As-is, where-is, $10K will cover what I've got in it. I'd want about  
> $13K if
> I leave the new owner my generator, inverter, expensive 12/24 V  
> battery
> charger, all my tools, etc.
>
> If I get stuck doing the engine rebuild and install and other small
> commissioning tasks, I assume it will go back on the market at  
> something
> over $40K, given the new paint, seats, etc. and up-to-spec engine.
>
> Of note to a small segment of people, the cabin by itself is  
> valuable--heck,
> Unicat sells one the same size for 160,0000 Euros ;-)--so if you  
> want the
> truck and not the cabin, we should talk, and if you want the cabin  
> and not
> the truck, we should talk. By far, though, highest and best use is  
> as an
> intact long-distance expedition motorhome.
>
> Finally, I know where to get a good condition rebuildable engine if a
> prospective buyer does not.
>
> Thanks for the interest,
>
> Mike Hiscox
> _______________________________________________
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From tkv000 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 17:54:57 2010
From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:54:57 -0600
Subject: [MOG] Save-A-Mog Foundation, etc.
In-Reply-To: <48AEA58C-8BDD-431F-9EF7-DD9210B86A39@shaw.ca>
References: <7B91C5B6CB264D62A6256337285C460C@MHISCOX290>
	<AANLkTi=+VDHdnjf+tJwErL_EdBgPM1SYL24c0nGXqV6O@mail.gmail.com>
	<48AEA58C-8BDD-431F-9EF7-DD9210B86A39@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=3R-A99BEhFnVJCmzHXXrBHn3XetXikw4ML5YP@mail.gmail.com>

That's the Unimog she originally wanted ;) My wife is extremely Pro-Unimog

We originally planned on Driving to NWMF this year, but our house sitter
dropped out on us, with the average 2" per day of rain, and 2 sump pumps in
our house, I'm not comfortable leaving it for 2 weeks, were still trying to
arrange a sitter for our dogs (both special needs rescued dogs) and house
and *might* fly down for the weekend.

-Trev

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Paul <unimog61 at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Does she know you're asking these questions?
> :)
>
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 2010-08-18, at 15:35, Trevor V <tkv000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Mike,
>>
>> I'm familiar with the engine removal procedure on a regular 406/416, what
>> does it look like for this rig ?
>>
>> -Trev, from my android mobile
>>
>> On 2010-08-18 11:38 AM, "Michael Hiscox" <mhiscox01 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Paul sent me a question last night about Camper Mog which is likely of
>> general interest, so I figured I'd post my response . . .
>>
>> "Hi Mike: Out of curiosity. How much are you hoping to get? Paul"
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Thanks for the question, Paul. Been quieter than I'd have liked on this
>> topic. Maybe everyone's just waiiting for MogFest.
>>
>> As-is, where-is, $10K will cover what I've got in it. I'd want about $13K
>> if
>> I leave the new owner my generator, inverter, expensive 12/24 V battery
>> charger, all my tools, etc.
>>
>> If I get stuck doing the engine rebuild and install and other small
>> commissioning tasks, I assume it will go back on the market at something
>> over $40K, given the new paint, seats, etc. and up-to-spec engine.
>>
>> Of note to a small segment of people, the cabin by itself is
>> valuable--heck,
>> Unicat sells one the same size for 160,0000 Euros ;-)--so if you want the
>> truck and not the cabin, we should talk, and if you want the cabin and not
>> the truck, we should talk. By far, though, highest and best use is as an
>> intact long-distance expedition motorhome.
>>
>> Finally, I know where to get a good condition rebuildable engine if a
>> prospective buyer does not.
>>
>> Thanks for the interest,
>>
>> Mike Hiscox
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mog mailing list
>> Mog at tx4x4.com
>> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com
>> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com
>> brought to you by http://www.installer.com
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>> brought to you by http://www.installer.com
>>
>
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From ALnDNESE at aol.com  Wed Aug 18 18:28:51 2010
From: ALnDNESE at aol.com (ALnDNESE at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:28:51 EDT
Subject: [MOG] Save-A-Mog Foundation, etc.
Message-ID: <a1e45.6de24be0.399dc6b3@aol.com>

For those on the list that have not seen the Rail-Road Mog, here is a  
picture from 2003:
 
_http://www.draperzoo.com/albums/Nwmf2003/slides/Expi-mog01.html_ 
(http://www.draperzoo.com/albums/Nwmf2003/slides/Expi-mog01.html) 
 
 
Alan Draper
 
 
 
In a message dated 8/18/2010 3:50:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
unimog61 at shaw.ca writes:

Does she  know you're asking these questions?
:)

Paul


On  2010-08-18, at 15:35, Trevor V <tkv000 at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Mike,
>
> I'm familiar with the engine removal procedure on a  regular 406/416,  
> what
> does it look like for this rig  ?
>
> -Trev, from my android mobile
>
> On 2010-08-18  11:38 AM, "Michael Hiscox" <mhiscox01 at comcast.net>  
>  wrote:
>
> Paul sent me a question last night about Camper Mog  which is likely of
> general interest, so I figured I'd post my response  . . .
>
> "Hi Mike: Out of curiosity. How much are you hoping to  get? Paul"
>
>

From mhiscox01 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 18 18:34:27 2010
From: mhiscox01 at comcast.net (Michael Hiscox)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:34:27 -0700
Subject: [MOG] Save-A-Mog Foundation, etc.
References: <7B91C5B6CB264D62A6256337285C460C@MHISCOX290>
	<AANLkTi=+VDHdnjf+tJwErL_EdBgPM1SYL24c0nGXqV6O@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D9D269F24A5E4E4CAA8B59F08DF579B7@MHISCOX290>


> Mike,
>
> I'm familiar with the engine removal procedure on a regular 406/416, what
> does it look like for this rig ?

---------------------------------------------------

Well, now, that's part of the adventure, isn't it? :-)

George Reiswig and I looked it over last weekend and pretty much concluded, 
"Heck if we know."

The front cowl is pure 416, so the attachment points for the cab tilt 
brackets are there. And there's not a lot of extra wiring because of the 
camper; all of that disconnects through a single plug. And the wires, hoses, 
linkages, etc. that exist for the stock truck should be pretty much in the 
same place.

The problem we worried about was the weight of the cab and whether the 
tubing at the cab tilt points would be in any danger of collasping from the 
heft of the giant cab. If I end up managing the install, I think I'd take 
out the seats and anything else that would add a lot of weight; I'll also 
see if there's any practical way to get the sliding doors off their tracks. 
My guess is that without doors or seats, the weight might not be too 
gruesome. But before someone asks, I have no idea what the cab actually 
weighs.

Just figure if it was obvious, any damn fool (like me) could do it. :-) 



From n7mog at msn.com  Wed Aug 18 19:39:21 2010
From: n7mog at msn.com (n7mog at msn.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:39:21 +0000
Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Colorado Springs, CO
In-Reply-To: <8D0CB6F8-95A3-48DC-8246-6B629FF22148@yahoo.com>
References: <8D0CB6F8-95A3-48DC-8246-6B629FF22148@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1226046446-1282178346-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-806757470-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Too bad you are that far south.  Deadwood, SD is home for my 2 moss.  The Black Hills of South Dakota is a great destination as well!
Bill Collister
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:46:00 
To: <mog at tx4x4.com>
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Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Colorado Springs, CO

Moggers:

We are "taking care of business" here in CO.  We have visited many folks including local moggers like Ron DePugh.

I have posted new photos on http://www.billcaid.com/2010/HogHunting20100323/Part29/Part29.html that include some interesting truck photos.

We are heading east from here, back to see Rob Pickering in La Junta and from there, southwest back to San Diego.  We will not be attending NWMF, it is just too far to go in a short time.  But, to those who attend, please give our regards to all.

Happy Mogging!

Best,

bc


Bill Caid
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From n7mog at msn.com  Wed Aug 18 20:01:52 2010
From: n7mog at msn.com (n7mog at msn.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:01:52 +0000
Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Colorado Springs, CO
In-Reply-To: <1226046446-1282178346-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-806757470-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <8D0CB6F8-95A3-48DC-8246-6B629FF22148@yahoo.com><1226046446-1282178346-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-806757470-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <587426489-1282179716-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1878809661-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

MOGS, not moss!  Sorry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: Re: [MOG] Greetings from Colorado Springs, CO

Too bad you are that far south.  Deadwood, SD is home for my 2 moss.  The Black Hills of South Dakota is a great destination as well!
Bill Collister
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Colorado Springs, CO

Moggers:

We are "taking care of business" here in CO.  We have visited many folks including local moggers like Ron DePugh.

I have posted new photos on http://www.billcaid.com/2010/HogHunting20100323/Part29/Part29.html that include some interesting truck photos.

We are heading east from here, back to see Rob Pickering in La Junta and from there, southwest back to San Diego.  We will not be attending NWMF, it is just too far to go in a short time.  But, to those who attend, please give our regards to all.

Happy Mogging!

Best,

bc


Bill Caid
bcaid at yahoo.com (mobile)
(c) 619-994-0458




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From joe.obremski at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 20:51:07 2010
From: joe.obremski at gmail.com (Joe O'Bremski)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:51:07 -0700
Subject: [MOG] ETERNALLY RECURRING QUESTION
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I love my swap.  It's easier to reuse the stock 404 carb, intake and exhaust
manifolds then use the sedan dual carb and it would handle better off
camber.  If your mostly driving on the road the the sedan carbs would be
spunky.

The motor swap is fairly easy.  You swap over got m180 oil pan, grind some
clearance notches were the M130 crank makes contact, change some doul pins,
new thick flywheel and some minor mods to the oil pump pressure regulator as
it will hit the oil pan.   Easily a one day job with a stock cab and a
cherry picker.

Really makes the 12.5 tires roadable.  I'm actually losing few ponies
running propane but she hauls ass.  Could be why I had to swap a tranny.  ;)

On Aug 3, 2010 2:39 PM, "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" <FDEBROS at partners.org>
wrote:

i could get a mercedes 250c and 280s wrecked inside/out in storage since 20
years, both with a m130 sohc(?) dual carb engine that was "running when last
tried"...hm.

how much of a headache is it to swap an m130 engine with the m180 engine of
a
404.1 (and make it a 404.0), add 12.5 tires and have something a bit more
"roadtolerable"?
is it just nuts, bolts and elbowgrease or does the flywheel, oilpan  need to
be
changed too?
or is there a 404.0 for sale somewhere?

fred


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