From arcticcat99 at hotmail.com Sat Aug 21 06:52:04 2010 From: arcticcat99 at hotmail.com (-Bob -) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 05:52:04 -0600 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken In-Reply-To: References: <20090727.213618.5281.0@webmail19.vgs.untd.com>, , <176ec1ed0907272141k4f274c5g84ef5995460751a5@mail.gmail.com>, , <378743.94024.qm@web55804.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, , <176ec1ed0907272218s29952747r8ff3aeb4b86e30cb@mail.gmail.com>, , <3c04e4580907280218x4a125043iaa01989a12b4a74d@mail.gmail.com>, , , , , , Message-ID: awesome... my 71 404 has a rock chip in the passenger side and the glass is starting to get slightly milky around the edges... I should see what the local glass shops can offer in the way of prices. > From: dsd277 at sbcglobal.net > To: mog at tx4x4.com > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:15:17 -0700 > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > Tempered and laminated glass are both safety glass, just a matter of what > the governing laws are for the windshields,. afaik, All of Europe now uses > Laminated glass for windshields. > As far as metric vs inch, most all are nominal dimensions and only in some > rare cases one can't be swapped for the other. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "-Bob -" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > > > > > I guess I can understand a glass place not wanting to screw with the > > windsheild frame, but an apprentice should be able to cut a piece of flat > > glass. Am I right in understanding is the original mog windshield glass > > is tempered, and north american glass is laminated safey glass. One in > > metric and the other in inches. over the years I think people have > > sucessfully put modern safety glass in a 404 frame despite the minor size > > difference. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From FDEBROS at PARTNERS.ORG Sat Aug 21 07:51:56 2010 From: FDEBROS at PARTNERS.ORG (Debros, Frederic M.,Md) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:51:56 -0400 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken References: <120619.39309.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: its a softtop my problem: how do i take the frame apart? then yes where do i get a gasket getting a piece of safety glass is not the problem....right now! thanks for the help fred -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn Sent: Fri 8/20/2010 4:23 PM To: 'Mog Mailing List' Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken What 404 do you have? The glass is installed differently on the hardtop from the softtops. And thickness won't matter if you do it correctly. I am constantly fabricating tinted windshields, and the only problem you'll have is trying to reuse a packing gasket that is a one time use. There are several thicknesses of the packing, and it normally takes trial and error to find the correct one. Scott has tinted windshields for the 404 hardtops.... In a normal gasket set, the slight difference in thickness won't matter, as long as the rubber is pliable David Dunn DSD Glass 626 401-3613 dsd277 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of history at frii.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 AM To: mog at tx4x4.com Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken Hi, I looked into this earlier this summer, but haven't replaced my broken glass yet. As I recall, the Benzworld archives said that this glass was 6mm thick, and American glass shops don't usually have that. The recommendation seemed to be to get glass and gaskets/rubber stuff from a mog vender, and then do the work yourself. Cheers, Joe 404.114 _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. From dsd277 at sbcglobal.net Sat Aug 21 08:28:36 2010 From: dsd277 at sbcglobal.net (David Dunn) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:28:36 -0700 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken References: <120619.39309.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <679F1C0C086442C0A335133F214BFDB1@PC430180398780> I need to see a 404 ( only had intimate contact with SBU :), but a typical frame of that type and era would come apart from one end and the glass slides out. Your problem would be to find the right thickness cork/rubber packing tape for the new glass, in your frame ( there are 5 different thicknesses ). The tape slides in fairly easy, but you cover the tape in oil ( before installation). it then swells and holds the glass firm.You then trim the excess rubber flush with the frame, This is the same procedure for doing framed vent glass. No instant gratification... it takes time for the tape to swell. The tape/packing is "old" school autoglass and you need to find an older, more "rounded" glass shop where the glaziers have been do more than the typical modern auto glass :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" To: "Mog Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken its a softtop my problem: how do i take the frame apart? then yes where do i get a gasket getting a piece of safety glass is not the problem....right now! thanks for the help fred -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn Sent: Fri 8/20/2010 4:23 PM To: 'Mog Mailing List' Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken What 404 do you have? The glass is installed differently on the hardtop from the softtops. And thickness won't matter if you do it correctly. I am constantly fabricating tinted windshields, and the only problem you'll have is trying to reuse a packing gasket that is a one time use. There are several thicknesses of the packing, and it normally takes trial and error to find the correct one. Scott has tinted windshields for the 404 hardtops.... In a normal gasket set, the slight difference in thickness won't matter, as long as the rubber is pliable David Dunn DSD Glass 626 401-3613 dsd277 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of history at frii.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 AM To: mog at tx4x4.com Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken Hi, I looked into this earlier this summer, but haven't replaced my broken glass yet. As I recall, the Benzworld archives said that this glass was 6mm thick, and American glass shops don't usually have that. The recommendation seemed to be to get glass and gaskets/rubber stuff from a mog vender, and then do the work yourself. Cheers, Joe 404.114 _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From FDEBROS at PARTNERS.ORG Sat Aug 21 16:12:30 2010 From: FDEBROS at PARTNERS.ORG (Debros, Frederic M.,Md) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:12:30 -0400 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken...how do i take the frame apart? References: <120619.39309.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <679F1C0C086442C0A335133F214BFDB1@PC430180398780> Message-ID: someone must have done this before! it doesnt seem diabolical, but i am new to this: should i takre the entire frame off? do the wifers need to come off? after that a local bathroom/stormwindow local glazier will do the rest for me.... fred -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn Sent: Sat 8/21/2010 9:28 AM To: Mog Mailing List Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken I need to see a 404 ( only had intimate contact with SBU :), but a typical frame of that type and era would come apart from one end and the glass slides out. Your problem would be to find the right thickness cork/rubber packing tape for the new glass, in your frame ( there are 5 different thicknesses ). The tape slides in fairly easy, but you cover the tape in oil ( before installation). it then swells and holds the glass firm.You then trim the excess rubber flush with the frame, This is the same procedure for doing framed vent glass. No instant gratification... it takes time for the tape to swell. The tape/packing is "old" school autoglass and you need to find an older, more "rounded" glass shop where the glaziers have been do more than the typical modern auto glass :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" To: "Mog Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken its a softtop my problem: how do i take the frame apart? then yes where do i get a gasket getting a piece of safety glass is not the problem....right now! thanks for the help fred -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn Sent: Fri 8/20/2010 4:23 PM To: 'Mog Mailing List' Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken What 404 do you have? The glass is installed differently on the hardtop from the softtops. And thickness won't matter if you do it correctly. I am constantly fabricating tinted windshields, and the only problem you'll have is trying to reuse a packing gasket that is a one time use. There are several thicknesses of the packing, and it normally takes trial and error to find the correct one. Scott has tinted windshields for the 404 hardtops.... In a normal gasket set, the slight difference in thickness won't matter, as long as the rubber is pliable David Dunn DSD Glass 626 401-3613 dsd277 at sbcglobal.net -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of history at frii.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 AM To: mog at tx4x4.com Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken Hi, I looked into this earlier this summer, but haven't replaced my broken glass yet. As I recall, the Benzworld archives said that this glass was 6mm thick, and American glass shops don't usually have that. The recommendation seemed to be to get glass and gaskets/rubber stuff from a mog vender, and then do the work yourself. Cheers, Joe 404.114 _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com From dprager at nuskin.com Sat Aug 21 16:27:00 2010 From: dprager at nuskin.com (Danny Prager) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:27:00 -0600 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken...how do i take the frame apart? In-Reply-To: References: <120619.39309.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <679F1C0C086442C0A335133F214BFDB1@PC430180398780> Message-ID: <7513FD71-5FF7-4289-8A1F-6DE43CFA7DED@nuskin.com> I just did mine. Removed the entire windscreen including removing the wiper motors. Also removed the top Rail of the windscreen before having a local glass shop to do the work - good luck Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:16 PM, "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" wrote: > someone must have done this before! it doesnt seem diabolical, but i > am new to > this: > should i takre the entire frame off? > do the wifers need to come off? > > > after that a local bathroom/stormwindow local glazier will do the > rest for > me.... > > fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn > Sent: Sat 8/21/2010 9:28 AM > To: Mog Mailing List > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > I need to see a 404 ( only had intimate contact with SBU :), but a > typical > frame of that type and era would come apart from one end and the glass > slides out. Your problem would be to find the right thickness cork/ > rubber > packing tape for the new glass, in your frame ( there are 5 different > thicknesses ). The tape slides in fairly easy, but you cover the > tape in oil > ( before installation). it then swells and holds the glass firm.You > then > trim the excess rubber flush with the frame, This is the same > procedure for > doing framed vent glass. > No instant gratification... it takes time for the tape to swell. > > The tape/packing is "old" school autoglass and you need to find an > older, > more "rounded" glass shop where the glaziers have been do more than > the > typical modern auto glass :) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" > To: "Mog Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:51 AM > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > > its a softtop > > my problem: how do i take the frame apart? > then yes where do i get a gasket > getting a piece of safety glass is not the problem....right now! > > thanks for the help > > fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn > Sent: Fri 8/20/2010 4:23 PM > To: 'Mog Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > What 404 do you have? The glass is installed differently on the > hardtop from > the softtops. And thickness won't matter if you do it correctly. > I am constantly fabricating tinted windshields, and the only problem > you'll > have is trying to reuse a packing gasket that is a one time use. > There are > several thicknesses of the packing, and it normally takes trial and > error to > find the correct one. > > Scott has tinted windshields for the 404 hardtops.... In a normal > gasket > set, the slight difference in thickness won't matter, as long as the > rubber > is pliable > > David Dunn > > DSD Glass > 626 401-3613 > dsd277 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf > Of > history at frii.com > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 AM > To: mog at tx4x4.com > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > Hi, > I looked into this earlier this summer, but haven't replaced my broken > glass yet. > As I recall, the Benzworld archives said that this glass was 6mm > thick, > and American glass > shops don't usually have that. The recommendation seemed to be to get > glass and gaskets/rubber stuff > from a mog vender, and then do the work yourself. > > Cheers, > Joe > 404.114 > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to > whom it is > addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the > e-mail > contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance > HelpLine at > http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to > you in > error > but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender > and > properly > dispose of the e-mail. > > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Mog mailing list >> Mog at tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > From unimog at beakerware.net Sat Aug 21 16:29:23 2010 From: unimog at beakerware.net (Michael Kingsbury) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:29:23 -0400 Subject: [MOG] Bolt size for mounting implement to Schmidt plate on Case MB4/94 Message-ID: Anyone know the bolt or thread size for the front two holes on a Schmidt plate on the MB4/94? I have a plow I'm trying to attach, and I need to source a couple bolts for this... thanks -mike From bksadler at telus.net Sat Aug 21 17:58:35 2010 From: bksadler at telus.net (Brian K. Sadler) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:58:35 -0700 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken...how do i take the frame apart? In-Reply-To: <7513FD71-5FF7-4289-8A1F-6DE43CFA7DED@nuskin.com> References: <120619.39309.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <679F1C0C086442C0A335133F214BFDB1@PC430180398780> <7513FD71-5FF7-4289-8A1F-6DE43CFA7DED@nuskin.com> Message-ID: <19740415002408.9BE393D3E7E0AB8C@edtnaa03.telusplanet.net> I did mine 5 or 6 years ago; same MO as Danny just said. Whole windshield off the Mog [get a second pair of hands, it's easier], remove the wiper blades, then the motors, and any special fitting rail along the top, depending upon NATO or Swiss model canvas top. As previously mentioned by several, any glass shop worth it's salt can replace flat laminated glass. Just avoid any shops that only do modern component replacements. You will see along the left- and right-hand side frames of the windshield that there are a couple of strategically placed bolts holding the frame together. If you do not have a manual, Scott at EI has a blowup diagram of the windshield, in all its component glory, on his web site [thanks, Scott]. As I recall, replacing my glass was less than $35 per panel. Brian '63 Swiss 404 Gibsons, BC At 03:27 PM 8/21/2010 -0600, you wrote: >I just did mine. Removed the entire windscreen including removing the >wiper motors. Also removed the top >Rail of the windscreen before having a local glass shop to do the work >- good luck > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:16 PM, "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" > wrote: > > > someone must have done this before! it doesnt seem diabolical, but i > > am new to > > this: > > should i takre the entire frame off? > > do the wifers need to come off? > > > > > > after that a local bathroom/stormwindow local glazier will do the > > rest for > > me.... > > > > fred > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn > > Sent: Sat 8/21/2010 9:28 AM > > To: Mog Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > > > I need to see a 404 ( only had intimate contact with SBU :), but a > > typical > > frame of that type and era would come apart from one end and the glass > > slides out. Your problem would be to find the right thickness cork/ > > rubber > > packing tape for the new glass, in your frame ( there are 5 different > > thicknesses ). The tape slides in fairly easy, but you cover the > > tape in oil > > ( before installation). it then swells and holds the glass firm.You > > then > > trim the excess rubber flush with the frame, This is the same > > procedure for > > doing framed vent glass. > > No instant gratification... it takes time for the tape to swell. > > > > The tape/packing is "old" school autoglass and you need to find an > > older, > > more "rounded" glass shop where the glaziers have been do more than > > the > > typical modern auto glass :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" > > To: "Mog Mailing List" > > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:51 AM > > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > > > > > its a softtop > > > > my problem: how do i take the frame apart? > > then yes where do i get a gasket > > getting a piece of safety glass is not the problem....right now! > > > > thanks for the help > > > > fred > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn > > Sent: Fri 8/20/2010 4:23 PM > > To: 'Mog Mailing List' > > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > > > What 404 do you have? The glass is installed differently on the > > hardtop from > > the softtops. And thickness won't matter if you do it correctly. > > I am constantly fabricating tinted windshields, and the only problem > > you'll > > have is trying to reuse a packing gasket that is a one time use. > > There are > > several thicknesses of the packing, and it normally takes trial and > > error to > > find the correct one. > > > > Scott has tinted windshields for the 404 hardtops.... In a normal > > gasket > > set, the slight difference in thickness won't matter, as long as the > > rubber > > is pliable > > > > David Dunn > > > > DSD Glass > > 626 401-3613 > > dsd277 at sbcglobal.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf > > Of > > history at frii.com > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 AM > > To: mog at tx4x4.com > > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > > > Hi, > > I looked into this earlier this summer, but haven't replaced my broken > > glass yet. > > As I recall, the Benzworld archives said that this glass was 6mm > > thick, > > and American glass > > shops don't usually have that. The recommendation seemed to be to get > > glass and gaskets/rubber stuff > > from a mog vender, and then do the work yourself. > > > > Cheers, > > Joe > > 404.114 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mog mailing list > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mog mailing list > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > > > > > The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to > > whom it is > > addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the > > e-mail > > contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance > > HelpLine at > > http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to > > you in > > error > > but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender > > and > > properly > > dispose of the e-mail. > > > > > > > > --- > > --- > > --- > > --- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mog mailing list > >> Mog at tx4x4.com > >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mog mailing list > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Mog mailing list >Mog at tx4x4.com >http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >brought to you by http://www.installer.com From jim.ince at gmail.com Sat Aug 21 19:49:48 2010 From: jim.ince at gmail.com (Jim Ince) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:49:48 -0700 Subject: [MOG] 404 front window broken In-Reply-To: References: <120619.39309.qm@smtp103.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <25337DD4-7A1C-461B-ACE3-81ED5769E478@gmail.com> Hi Fred, Use a good, properly-fitting impact driver (with a hammer) to carefully remove the pre-soaked, slotted round-headed bolts. We stock the windshield seals, sold by the meter and fraction there-of. We also have plenty of good used 404.114 windshield frames - less the glass (and seals) for safer shipping - at $95. We will disassemble them, for easier glass pane installation on your end, for an additional $75. Jim @ EuroTech (presently at NW MogFest) On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:51 AM, "Debros, Frederic M.,Md" wrote: > its a softtop > > my problem: how do i take the frame apart? > then yes where do i get a gasket > getting a piece of safety glass is not the problem....right now! > > thanks for the help > > fred > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com on behalf of David Dunn > Sent: Fri 8/20/2010 4:23 PM > To: 'Mog Mailing List' > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > What 404 do you have? The glass is installed differently on the > hardtop from > the softtops. And thickness won't matter if you do it correctly. > I am constantly fabricating tinted windshields, and the only problem > you'll > have is trying to reuse a packing gasket that is a one time use. > There are > several thicknesses of the packing, and it normally takes trial and > error to > find the correct one. > > Scott has tinted windshields for the 404 hardtops.... In a normal > gasket > set, the slight difference in thickness won't matter, as long as the > rubber > is pliable > > David Dunn > > DSD Glass > 626 401-3613 > dsd277 at sbcglobal.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf > Of > history at frii.com > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:30 AM > To: mog at tx4x4.com > Subject: Re: [MOG] 404 front window broken > > Hi, > I looked into this earlier this summer, but haven't replaced my broken > glass yet. > As I recall, the Benzworld archives said that this glass was 6mm > thick, > and American glass > shops don't usually have that. The recommendation seemed to be to get > glass and gaskets/rubber stuff > from a mog vender, and then do the work yourself. > > Cheers, > Joe > 404.114 > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to > whom it is > addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and > the e-mail > contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance > HelpLine at > http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to > you in error > but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender > and properly > dispose of the e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From imjustdave at hotmail.com Sat Aug 21 22:02:26 2010 From: imjustdave at hotmail.com (David Ashley ) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:02:26 +0000 Subject: [MOG] Bolt size for mounting implement to Schmidt plate on Case MB4/94 Message-ID: Michael If no one else pipes in when I get home monday ill measure them for you. By the way NWMF is going strong everyone is having fun. David Ashley u1250 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kingsbury Sent: 8/21/2010 9:29:23 PM To: Mog Mailing List Subject: [MOG] Bolt size for mounting implement to Schmidt plate on Case MB4/94 Anyone know the bolt or thread size for the front two holes on a Schmidt plate on the MB4/94? I have a plow I'm trying to attach, and I need to source a couple bolts for this... thanks -mike _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com