From vwsandmogs at volkswagenhaven.net Fri Aug 27 00:00:53 2010 From: vwsandmogs at volkswagenhaven.net (VWsandMOGs) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:00:53 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *Do* let us know how you manage to get it insured with ICBC!!!! Keith & Sharon Scott Calgary, Alberta, Canada 1956 VW "Magic" Bus 1963 ex-Swiss Unimog 404 1965 VW "Happy" Bus <--- now gone to a new home. 1967 Baja Bug - "Haja the Thunderbug" <---moved to his next home. 1971 Beetle - "Giggles" <--- gone too... http://www.volkswagenhaven.net On 2010-08-26, at 10:44 PM, Paul wrote: > Now if only I had a place to park it... > > paul > > > > > On 10-08-26 9:33 PM, "MPop5555 at aol.com" wrote: > >> It looks a little more robust than a HMMT. >> >> >> I like it! >> >> Mike Pop >> Eureka, NV >> Spring Lake, NJ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mog mailing list >> Mog at tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From tkv000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 01:08:56 2010 From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:08:56 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: <7F0970A5BE8AEC47BF5AE82B0FFA44E90112BBD3@UUSMNEL3.na.utcmail.com> Message-ID: Paul, Its very nice, but I prefer the desert paintjob: http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May07/22_Armored_Mercedes_Benz_Actros_Truck.jpg Makes the windows look meaner Also, if you were to ever afford to custom order one, you might as well get the civilian interior: http://www.ikincielkamyonlar.com/galeri/data/media/40/!New%20mercedes%20Actros%20--%20New%20mercedes%20actros%20photos.jpg I think the wood slates make it look very Unicat-ish, and you could carry the theme throughout your uber-camper :) There's also the civilian "Trust Edition" Interior: http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/af399b961721ecb3d8f0cab02a55b58f/Mercedes_Benz_Actros_1860_Trust_Edition_156501_20081112.jpg There's also the Eames Chair inspired passanger seat, not to my liking but my wife really likes Mid Century Modern stuff: http://www.autoevolution.com/images/truck_gallery/medium/MERCEDESActros-medium-97_5.jpg Not that I was mildly obsessed with the 8x8 actro's at one time..... ') -Trev 8x8 envy. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Paul wrote: > > http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mercedes-benz-actros-8x8-armoured-t7852 > 1.html > > Could it be any prettier...? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > From tkv000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 01:11:15 2010 From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:11:15 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Rant - U500 In-Reply-To: <767847152-1282876233-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1811708480-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <145d9d.5f8f5f19.39a84aa4@aol.com> <767847152-1282876233-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1811708480-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: U1300L Limp mode: Regular MPT Style tire mixed with your 3 XM-47's because you ripped open a sidewall and can't afford to have a spare XM-47 ;) -Trev On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:30 PM, wrote: > I'm hating vehicular computers more & more each day! > Bill > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul > Sender: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com > Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:41:53 > To: Mog Mailing List > Reply-To: Mog Mailing List > Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 > > I'm liking my 23 year old 1300L more and more everyday when I hear this > stuff... > > Paul > > > > > > On 10-08-26 3:54 PM, "EUROMOG at aol.com" wrote: > > > > > Kai, > > > > I have had ECU's in euro cars fail randomly and the procedure I wrote > about > > would be standard to vet out strange problems. Scan tools are great if > you > > have one that will communicate with the ECU you want to. The U500 does > not > > have a standard OBDII port. So then you need the Mercedes STAR system to > > plug in. Scan tools don't always tell the whole story though. If you > have > > several ECU's connected to a CAN bus another ECU in the system can fail > and > > cause the whole CAN bus to go down. Once that happens nothing on that > bus > > will work properly. Then you have to disconnect one ECU at a time until > the > > CAN bus wakes up again. > > > > I never had a problem with the U500 not starting or running. Did have a > > problem with the back up horn on the trailer causing the back up light > fuse to > > blow. That fuse also supplied a power circuit to the ECU. When that > > circuit had no power the ECU would go into limp mode. In the limp mode > the > > most > > you could go was 5MPH. > > > > I did have an intermittant problem with the electro-hydralic radiator fan > > system. Sometimes the electro-hydralic actuator would not give full > pressure > > to the hydralic radiator fan motor. That would cause it to not go full > > speed and cause overheating. Of course this would only happen when it > was > > over > > 100 degrees F outside but not all the time. I replaced the coolant > > thermostat, cracked expansion tank and cap and the coolant temp sensor > for > > the > > ECU. Problem was still there so only items left were the EHA valve or > the > > ECU. > > Got rid of the truck before the problem was corrected. > > > > John Wessels > > > > > > In a message dated 8/26/2010 2:26:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > kai.serrano at hs.utc.com writes: > > > > Holy Crap! There is much to be said for the 100% mechanical injection > pump > > on its predecessors! John is this something you know from experience > with > > yours? Have a good one! Kai > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mog mailing list > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > From unimog61 at shaw.ca Fri Aug 27 01:46:49 2010 From: unimog61 at shaw.ca (Paul) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:46:49 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: <16fb09.5280a39c.39a89d07@aol.com> Message-ID: Gracious as usual, thanks Mike! Paul On 10-08-26 9:45 PM, "MPop5555 at aol.com" wrote: > You can park it at my place. Plenty of room and I will start it and run > it every now and then. ;-) > > > Mike Pop > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From unimog61 at shaw.ca Fri Aug 27 01:50:14 2010 From: unimog61 at shaw.ca (Paul) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:50:14 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, seriously, I thought I had a problem, but I am quite alright compared to you... I think I need a hard wood floor in the cab of whatever I buy next... Paul On 10-08-26 11:08 PM, "Trevor V" wrote: > Paul, > > Its very nice, but I prefer the desert paintjob: > > http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May07/22_Armored_Mercedes_Benz_Actros_Truc > k.jpg > > Makes the windows look meaner > > Also, if you were to ever afford to custom order one, you might as well get > the civilian interior: > > http://www.ikincielkamyonlar.com/galeri/data/media/40/!New%20mercedes%20Actros > %20--%20New%20mercedes%20actros%20photos.jpg > > I think the wood slates make it look very Unicat-ish, and you could carry > the theme throughout your uber-camper :) > > There's also the civilian "Trust Edition" Interior: > > http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/af399b961721ecb3d8f0cab02a5 > 5b58f/Mercedes_Benz_Actros_1860_Trust_Edition_156501_20081112.jpg > > There's also the Eames Chair inspired passanger seat, not to my liking but > my wife really likes Mid Century Modern stuff: > > http://www.autoevolution.com/images/truck_gallery/medium/MERCEDESActros-medium > -97_5.jpg > > Not that I was mildly obsessed with the 8x8 actro's at one time..... ') > > -Trev 8x8 envy. > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Paul wrote: > >> >> http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mercedes-benz-actros-8x8-armoured-t7852 >> 1.html> -t7852%0A1.html> >> >> Could it be any prettier...? >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mog mailing list >> Mog at tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From joe.obremski at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 04:22:14 2010 From: joe.obremski at gmail.com (Joe O'Bremski) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:22:14 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Boy that would really solve Bill's larger camper issues ;) You'd be able to compete with Kirt's MANN RV. On Aug 26, 2010 11:50 PM, "Paul" wrote: OK, seriously, I thought I had a problem, but I am quite alright compared to you... I think I need a hard wood floor in the cab of whatever I buy next... Paul On 10-08-26 11:08 PM, "Trevor V" wrote: > Paul, > > Its very nice, but I pref... From joe.obremski at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 04:39:31 2010 From: joe.obremski at gmail.com (Joe O'Bremski) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:39:31 -0700 Subject: [MOG] 404 6th gear issues In-Reply-To: References: <42561.96347.qm@smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The conclusion: After getting the truck home and installing some replaced head bolts, apparently you need to look at the newton meters side of the torque wrench vs the foot lbs when torturing head bolts (likely why one had snapped during the tranny swap) I fired up the motor but the tranny had a little resistance. I had the apply the clutch to start as starting in neutral would cause the motor to drag to much to turn, plus my battery was half dead. After she started I could leave it idle in neutral with the clutch out but I had a loud moan from the tranny. Hoping it was just dry I did an easy spin around the neighbor hood and it went away. We hit Logandale over the weekend and there is something to say about a working tranny. Shifts great now, no more fighting gears, no more trying for 6th and loosing so much speed you have to go back to 5th and the EPA would be so proud, not 1 drop of oil from the tranny with all the new seals I installed, well from the tranny anyways ;) > > On Aug 13, 2010 10:01 AM, "David Dunn" wrote: > > Yeah Joe, > I've heard... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On... > > Yes in Nevada we have the same over 10k towing deal but a simple test for > the J endorsement takes ca... > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mail... From bradleysschmidt at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 08:13:30 2010 From: bradleysschmidt at gmail.com (Bradley Schmidt) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:13:30 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you want a nice 8x8, get an M656. They float. Theoretically. I love mine. http://www.mogmsgexch.com/index.php?q=gallery&g2_itemId=1384 From dhalkett at shaw.ca Fri Aug 27 09:53:28 2010 From: dhalkett at shaw.ca (Doug HALKETT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:53:28 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: <7F0970A5BE8AEC47BF5AE82B0FFA44E90112BBD3@UUSMNEL3.na.utcmail.com> Message-ID: Out of curiosity what does an 8x8 actro cost? Cheers, Doug Halkett '64 404.1 Surrey, BC http://members.shaw.ca/dhalkett ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevor V Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:09 pm Subject: Re: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper To: Mog Mailing List > Paul, > > Its very nice, but I prefer the desert paintjob: > > http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May07/22_Armored_Mercedes_Benz_Actros_Truck.jpg > > Makes the windows look meaner > > Also, if you were to ever afford to custom order one, you might > as well get > the civilian interior: > > http://www.ikincielkamyonlar.com/galeri/data/media/40/!New%20mercedes%20Actros%20--%20New%20mercedes%20actros%20photos.jpg > > I think the wood slates make it look very Unicat-ish, and you > could carry > the theme throughout your uber-camper :) > > There's also the civilian "Trust Edition" Interior: > > http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/af399b961721ecb3d8f0cab02a55b58f/Mercedes_Benz_Actros_1860_Trust_Edition_156501_20081112.jpg > > There's also the Eames Chair inspired passanger seat, not to my > liking but > my wife really likes Mid Century Modern stuff: > > http://www.autoevolution.com/images/truck_gallery/medium/MERCEDESActros-medium-97_5.jpg > > Not that I was mildly obsessed with the 8x8 actro's at one > time..... ') > > -Trev 8x8 envy. > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Paul wrote: > > > > > http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mercedes-benz-actros-8x8- > armoured-t7852 > > 1.html actros-8x8-armoured-t7852%0A1.html> > > > > Could it be any prettier...? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mog mailing list > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > From unimog61 at shaw.ca Fri Aug 27 09:56:29 2010 From: unimog61 at shaw.ca (Paul) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:56:29 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Steyr 12 M 18 OT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Other than what is available on google, does anyone have any personal knowledge or experience with the Steyr 12 M 18 series of trucks? I know they are a 5 ton, and all the technical details. I am looking for direct comparisons to a 1300L, such as noise level in the cab, fuel consumption, comfort, etc. Also I am having a hard time verifying the type of 4WD system it has. I've seen some info that says it is full time 4WD, with front, center and rear lockers and a high/low t-case. Is this correct? I am considering going to a larger platform for the next camper. I think the 1300L is still going to win out in the long run, but inquiring minds want to know... Paul From w.roden at online.de Fri Aug 27 10:13:09 2010 From: w.roden at online.de (Werner Roden) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:13:09 +0200 Subject: [MOG] Steyr 12 M 18 OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C77D605.7050604@online.de> Paul, we looked into the Steyr for a while for building up a bigger camper and if you want to go for a bigger platform its a good choice, roomy cab, good engine, faster than 1300, less noise. 5 ton is capacity, your info on the drivetrain is correct. Finaly we decided to stay with the 417 because we wanted the most compact vehicle possible for camper with real 4x4 abilities. If you want some pics we took during this time when we looked up some Steyr i can mail them to you. hth, Werner Am 27.08.2010 16:56, schrieb Paul: > Other than what is available on google, does anyone have any personal > knowledge or experience with the Steyr 12 M 18 series of trucks? > > I know they are a 5 ton, and all the technical details. I am looking for > direct comparisons to a 1300L, such as noise level in the cab, fuel > consumption, comfort, etc. > > Also I am having a hard time verifying the type of 4WD system it has. I've > seen some info that says it is full time 4WD, with front, center and rear > lockers and a high/low t-case. Is this correct? > > I am considering going to a larger platform for the next camper. I think the > 1300L is still going to win out in the long run, but inquiring minds want to > know... > > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From unimog61 at shaw.ca Fri Aug 27 10:17:16 2010 From: unimog61 at shaw.ca (Paul) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:17:16 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No clue, but I think its a lil more than I can spend today... Paul On 10-08-27 7:53 AM, "Doug HALKETT" wrote: > Out of curiosity what does an 8x8 actro cost? > > Cheers, > Doug Halkett > '64 404.1 > Surrey, BC > http://members.shaw.ca/dhalkett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trevor V > Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:09 pm > Subject: Re: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper > To: Mog Mailing List > >> Paul, >> >> Its very nice, but I prefer the desert paintjob: >> >> http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May07/22_Armored_Mercedes_Benz_Actros_Tru >> ck.jpg >> >> Makes the windows look meaner >> >> Also, if you were to ever afford to custom order one, you might >> as well get >> the civilian interior: >> >> http://www.ikincielkamyonlar.com/galeri/data/media/40/!New%20mercedes%20Actro >> s%20--%20New%20mercedes%20actros%20photos.jpg >> >> I think the wood slates make it look very Unicat-ish, and you >> could carry >> the theme throughout your uber-camper :) >> >> There's also the civilian "Trust Edition" Interior: >> >> http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/af399b961721ecb3d8f0cab02a >> 55b58f/Mercedes_Benz_Actros_1860_Trust_Edition_156501_20081112.jpg >> >> There's also the Eames Chair inspired passanger seat, not to my >> liking but >> my wife really likes Mid Century Modern stuff: >> >> http://www.autoevolution.com/images/truck_gallery/medium/MERCEDESActros-mediu >> m-97_5.jpg >> >> Not that I was mildly obsessed with the 8x8 actro's at one >> time..... ') >> >> -Trev 8x8 envy. >> >> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Paul wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mercedes-benz-actros-8x8- >> armoured-t7852 >>> 1.html> actros-8x8-armoured-t7852%0A1.html> >>> >>> Could it be any prettier...? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mog mailing list >>> Mog at tx4x4.com >>> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >>> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >>> brought to you by http://www.installer.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mog mailing list >> Mog at tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From kimosawboy1 at hotmail.com Fri Aug 27 10:24:08 2010 From: kimosawboy1 at hotmail.com (gerald vavra) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:24:08 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: <7F0970A5BE8AEC47BF5AE82B0FFA44E90112BBD3@UUSMNEL3.na.utcmail.com>, , , Message-ID: The low side http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?lang=en&id=134196484&pageNumber=2&scopeId=TO75&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&sortOption.sortOrder=ASCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=17200&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=8x8%2Bactros&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&vehicleCategory=TruckOver7500&segment=Truck&siteId=GERMANY&negativeFeatures=EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&export=NO_EXPORT&grossPrice=false&customerIdsAsString=&tabNumber=1 To the high side http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?__lp=11&scopeId=TO75&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&sortOption.sortOrder=ASCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=17200&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=8x8%2Bactros&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&vehicleCategory=TruckOver7500&segment=Truck&siteId=GERMANY&negativeFeatures=EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&export=NO_EXPORT&grossPrice=false&customerIdsAsString=&lang=en&id=115972698&pageNumber=10 But you can always buy new. G. Vavra 66 404.1 Doka 71 416 with Crane Courtenay, BC > Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:53:28 -0700 > From: dhalkett at shaw.ca > To: mog at tx4x4.com > Subject: Re: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper > > Out of curiosity what does an 8x8 actro cost? > > Cheers, > Doug Halkett > '64 404.1 > Surrey, BC > http://members.shaw.ca/dhalkett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trevor V > Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:09 pm > Subject: Re: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper > To: Mog Mailing List > > > Paul, > > > > Its very nice, but I prefer the desert paintjob: > > > > http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/May07/22_Armored_Mercedes_Benz_Actros_Truck.jpg > > > > Makes the windows look meaner > > > > Also, if you were to ever afford to custom order one, you might > > as well get > > the civilian interior: > > > > http://www.ikincielkamyonlar.com/galeri/data/media/40/!New%20mercedes%20Actros%20--%20New%20mercedes%20actros%20photos.jpg > > > > I think the wood slates make it look very Unicat-ish, and you > > could carry > > the theme throughout your uber-camper :) > > > > There's also the civilian "Trust Edition" Interior: > > > > http://photos.webridestv.com/datastore/images/user/af399b961721ecb3d8f0cab02a55b58f/Mercedes_Benz_Actros_1860_Trust_Edition_156501_20081112.jpg > > > > There's also the Eames Chair inspired passanger seat, not to my > > liking but > > my wife really likes Mid Century Modern stuff: > > > > http://www.autoevolution.com/images/truck_gallery/medium/MERCEDESActros-medium-97_5.jpg > > > > Not that I was mildly obsessed with the 8x8 actro's at one > > time..... ') > > > > -Trev 8x8 envy. > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.military-quotes.com/forum/mercedes-benz-actros-8x8- > > armoured-t7852 > > > 1.html > actros-8x8-armoured-t7852%0A1.html> > > > > > > Could it be any prettier...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mog mailing list > > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mog mailing list > > Mog at tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From c_kirzinger at hotmail.com Fri Aug 27 13:32:09 2010 From: c_kirzinger at hotmail.com (Corey Kirzinger) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:32:09 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Rant - U500 In-Reply-To: References: <145d9d.5f8f5f19.39a84aa4@aol.com> <767847152-1282876233-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1811708480-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: *OUCH* How'd you do that, Trev? Do tell! Corey -------------------------------------------------- From: "Trevor V" Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:11 AM To: ; "Mog Mailing List" Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 > U1300L Limp mode: > > Regular MPT Style tire mixed with your 3 XM-47's because you ripped open a > sidewall and can't afford to have a spare XM-47 ;) > > -Trev > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:30 PM, wrote: > >> I'm hating vehicular computers more & more each day! >> Bill >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul >> Sender: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com >> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:41:53 >> To: Mog Mailing List >> Reply-To: Mog Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 >> >> I'm liking my 23 year old 1300L more and more everyday when I hear this >> stuff... >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10-08-26 3:54 PM, "EUROMOG at aol.com" wrote: >> >> > >> > Kai, >> > >> > I have had ECU's in euro cars fail randomly and the procedure I wrote >> about >> > would be standard to vet out strange problems. Scan tools are great if >> you >> > have one that will communicate with the ECU you want to. The U500 does >> not >> > have a standard OBDII port. So then you need the Mercedes STAR system >> > to >> > plug in. Scan tools don't always tell the whole story though. If you >> have >> > several ECU's connected to a CAN bus another ECU in the system can >> > fail >> and >> > cause the whole CAN bus to go down. Once that happens nothing on that >> bus >> > will work properly. Then you have to disconnect one ECU at a time >> > until >> the >> > CAN bus wakes up again. >> > >> > I never had a problem with the U500 not starting or running. Did have >> > a >> > problem with the back up horn on the trailer causing the back up light >> fuse to >> > blow. That fuse also supplied a power circuit to the ECU. When that >> > circuit had no power the ECU would go into limp mode. In the limp mode >> the >> > most >> > you could go was 5MPH. >> > >> > I did have an intermittant problem with the electro-hydralic radiator >> > fan >> > system. Sometimes the electro-hydralic actuator would not give full >> pressure >> > to the hydralic radiator fan motor. That would cause it to not go full >> > speed and cause overheating. Of course this would only happen when it >> was >> > over >> > 100 degrees F outside but not all the time. I replaced the coolant >> > thermostat, cracked expansion tank and cap and the coolant temp sensor >> for >> > the >> > ECU. Problem was still there so only items left were the EHA valve or >> the >> > ECU. >> > Got rid of the truck before the problem was corrected. >> > >> > John Wessels >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 8/26/2010 2:26:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> > kai.serrano at hs.utc.com writes: >> > >> > Holy Crap! There is much to be said for the 100% mechanical injection >> pump >> > on its predecessors! John is this something you know from experience >> with >> > yours? Have a good one! Kai >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Mog mailing list >> > Mog at tx4x4.com >> > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> > brought to you by http://www.installer.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mog mailing list >> Mog at tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mog mailing list >> Mog at tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com >> http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com >> brought to you by http://www.installer.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > From tkv000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 13:34:31 2010 From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:34:31 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Rant - U500 In-Reply-To: References: <145d9d.5f8f5f19.39a84aa4@aol.com> <767847152-1282876233-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1811708480-@bda743.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I didn't...thank gawd. I'm just saying that'd the equivalent -Trev, from my android mobile On 2010-08-27 12:33 PM, "Corey Kirzinger" wrote: *OUCH* How'd you do that, Trev? Do tell! Corey -------------------------------------------------- From: "Trevor V" Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 12:11 AM To: ; "Mog Mailing List" Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 > U1300L Limp mode: > > Regular MPT Style tire mixed with your 3 XM... From philip at snorrri.net Fri Aug 27 17:19:28 2010 From: philip at snorrri.net (philip at snorrri.net) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:19:28 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Rant - U500 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you think the ECU is toast anyway, you might want to try the following as it can't hurt. ?In fact, why not try it with the old ECU? ?Take the ECU out and spray ALL of the signal carrying connectors liberally with WD-40 (as in Water Displacement Formula No. 40) as well as the ECU itself if you can see the circuit board. ?If you can disassemble it to see the circuit board(s), spray the board(s) with WD-40 on both top and bottom surfaces and on all the connectors. Also, disconnect ALL the connections elsewhere in the truck that carry signals and spray liberally with WD-40. ?Reassemble and reconnect. ?See if it works. ?Can't do any harm. (You may want to look at any other circuit boards that are in the signal path (instrument panel?) and disassemble and spray them both on both surfaces and on the connectors.) Theory of operation: ?there may be alternate signal paths due to condensation/salt water condensation/salt deposition/static electricity buildup that will cause signal errors. ?The ECU then shuts down when the errors appear. ?WD-40 both prevents condensation on the circuit boards and connectors that may be causing spurious signal paths and isolates the boards and connectors electrically from the environment. ?Old use: if you got moisture in your mechanical distributor, a good spray with WD-40 (or CRC-656) solved the problem. ?No need to dry anything out or to remove the film of WD-40. ?The film will protect components from moisture in the future and will not harm anything electrically as the film is non-conductive. ?As well as many other uses over the years, I saved about $1,500 recently in electrical circuit boards for both an electronic dishwasher and an electronic washer that were giving all sorts of strange error messages. ?The error messages from both the dishwasher and washer were false and were generated (IMO) by stray/spurious signal paths due to humidity/precipitation from evaporated condensation/static electricity buildup. ? From veggiemog at yahoo.com Fri Aug 27 17:34:39 2010 From: veggiemog at yahoo.com (Kelly) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper In-Reply-To: References: <7F0970A5BE8AEC47BF5AE82B0FFA44E90112BBD3@UUSMNEL3.na.utcmail.com>, , , Message-ID: <962110.18411.qm@web55802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Aye Caramba! That makes me feel stinkin' poor. KellyIndustrious Dog LLC www.industriousdog.com Prototyping and signs for the fearless ----- Original Message ---- From: gerald vavra To: mog at tx4x4.com Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 8:24:08 AM Subject: Re: [MOG] Found the platform for my new camper The low side http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/show To the high side http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/show But you can always buy new. G. Vavra 66 404.1 Doka 71 416 with Crane Courtenay, BC From bcaid at yahoo.com Fri Aug 27 17:47:39 2010 From: bcaid at yahoo.com (William Caid) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:47:39 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Los Alamos, NM Message-ID: <8AE9F4E6-CC80-433E-A9A8-6C77BCC850B2@yahoo.com> Moggers: We arrived in Los Alamos after several days in the Sangre de Christo mountains of northern New Mexico. I have posted updated photos on http://www.billcaid.com/2010/HogHunting20100323/Part31/Part31.html and Part32 We have covered a large number of miles since the last photo update, ergo 2 full pages. Enjoy the photos. We will be meeting with local moggers here in Los Alamos tonight (Patrick Kennedy) and tomorrow with KC Carpenter et al is the ALBQ area. We are guessing that we are about 10 days away from home. Returning will be bittersweet as there will be tons of actions to accomplish but it will be nice to sleep in our own bed. Happy mogging. Bill Caid bcaid at yahoo.com (mobile) (c) 619-994-0458 From dzzmiller at yahoo.com Fri Aug 27 17:57:43 2010 From: dzzmiller at yahoo.com (Don Miller) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MOG] Nice Alaskan Camper! In-Reply-To: <764538.81082.qm@web38403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <764538.81082.qm@web38403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <163760.97455.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> It's mine. It's going on a U500 stretched to 4200mm (camper frame is 17.5') - if I can every get to AC to pick it up. The size isn't as dramatic as it seems. the main cabin is about 9 feet with the space that's normally under the cab area filled in. So the cabin area is not as big as the regular Alaskan 10'. It's a pretty straight forward Alaskan. Two differences are that it takes a normal 10" spring mattress, and the interior height is 5" taller than normal. Camper height is designed to be close to the top of the cab. ________________________________ From: Bob Ragain To: Mog Mailing List Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 11:40:55 AM Subject: [MOG] Nice Alaskan Camper! Someone is getting a really nice camper!! Boy, it'd be nice to have a new 13 ft Alaskan!! http://www.truckcampermagazine.com/2010-tour:-alaskan-campers/ Anyone want to brag a little?? Bob _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com From tkv000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 18:03:53 2010 From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:03:53 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Using Google Goggles to translate text on a Unimog Message-ID: I was fooling around with my new Android Mobile phone, and discovered the App "Google Goggles" will auto translate text from German (and many other languages) to English. Now I don't speak a lick of German (its on the to-do list) And it sucks to try to type it into Google/yahoo/bablefish translate, so this for me is super fun. I made a short video using a camera phone to record another camera phone (its all I have) so you'll probably have to watch it in high quality to get the full effect. I apologize for the quality and shakiness, but it gets the point across. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1-8rCmZixU -Trev From imjustdave at hotmail.com Fri Aug 27 18:32:40 2010 From: imjustdave at hotmail.com (David Ashley) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 16:32:40 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Using Google Goggles to translate text on a Unimog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trevor That is just too cool... -----Original Message----- From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of Trevor V Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:04 PM To: Mog Mailing List Subject: [MOG] Using Google Goggles to translate text on a Unimog I was fooling around with my new Android Mobile phone, and discovered the App "Google Goggles" will auto translate text from German (and many other languages) to English. Now I don't speak a lick of German (its on the to-do list) And it sucks to try to type it into Google/yahoo/bablefish translate, so this for me is super fun. I made a short video using a camera phone to record another camera phone (its all I have) so you'll probably have to watch it in high quality to get the full effect. I apologize for the quality and shakiness, but it gets the point across. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1-8rCmZixU -Trev _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com From tkv000 at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 18:36:35 2010 From: tkv000 at gmail.com (Trevor V) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:36:35 -0600 Subject: [MOG] Using Google Goggles to translate text on a Unimog In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I now know: That according to the sticker on the shift indicator panel says: "Put shifter in Neutral Before starting" The Sticker above the speedo says: "Turn off auxiliary heater before tilting cab" The sticker on the Glove box says: "Emergency calls Channel 1, listening channel 2, ect" Oh I'm having to much fun... -Trev On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, David Ashley wrote: > Trevor > > That is just too cool... > > -----Original Message----- > From: mog-bounces at tx4x4.com [mailto:mog-bounces at tx4x4.com] On Behalf Of > Trevor V > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:04 PM > To: Mog Mailing List > Subject: [MOG] Using Google Goggles to translate text on a Unimog > > I was fooling around with my new Android Mobile phone, and discovered the > App "Google Goggles" will auto translate text from German (and many other > languages) to English. Now I don't speak a lick of German (its on the to-do > list) And it sucks to try to type it into Google/yahoo/bablefish translate, > so this for me is super fun. > > I made a short video using a camera phone to record another camera phone > (its all I have) so you'll probably have to watch it in high quality to get > the full effect. I apologize for the quality and shakiness, but it gets the > point across. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1-8rCmZixU > > -Trev > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com > From unimog at san.rr.com Fri Aug 27 19:56:17 2010 From: unimog at san.rr.com (Unimog Mitchell) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:56:17 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Rant - U500 In-Reply-To: <15559.34630.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <15559.34630.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When I was a "newbie" trying to decide what flavor of Mog to buy, Jack Russell told me, "Enjoy looking around at all the toys, but if you want an off road truck, you will eventually settle on a U1300L. Get one of the ex BW models." I guess I agree with Bob's pronouncement below. m3 Mark Mitchell San Diego, Ca. KI6IO 1988 U1300L On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Bob Ragain wrote: > U-1300L, best Unimog ever made :-) > Bob > > --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Paul wrote: > >> From: Paul >> Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 >> To: "Mog Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:41 PM >> I'm liking my 23 year old 1300L more >> and more everyday when I hear this >> stuff... >> >> Paul >> >> >> From unimog at san.rr.com Fri Aug 27 20:04:43 2010 From: unimog at san.rr.com (Unimog Mitchell) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:04:43 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Los Alamos, NM In-Reply-To: <8AE9F4E6-CC80-433E-A9A8-6C77BCC850B2@yahoo.com> References: <8AE9F4E6-CC80-433E-A9A8-6C77BCC850B2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Bill: How are you getting the new truck home? m3 Mark Mitchell San Diego, Ca. KI6IO 1988 U1300L On Aug 27, 2010, at 3:47 PM, William Caid wrote: > Moggers: > > We arrived in Los Alamos after several days in the Sangre de Christo > mountains of northern New Mexico. I have posted updated photos on http://www.billcaid.com/2010/HogHunting20100323/Part31/Part31.html > and Part32 We have covered a large number of miles since the last > photo update, ergo 2 full pages. > > Enjoy the photos. We will be meeting with local moggers here in Los > Alamos tonight (Patrick Kennedy) and tomorrow with KC Carpenter et > al is the ALBQ area. > > We are guessing that we are about 10 days away from home. Returning > will be bittersweet as there will be tons of actions to accomplish > but it will be nice to sleep in our own bed. > > Happy mogging. > > Bill Caid > bcaid at yahoo.com (mobile) > (c) 619-994-0458 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mog mailing list > Mog at tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com > http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com > brought to you by http://www.installer.com From imjustdave at hotmail.com Fri Aug 27 20:13:24 2010 From: imjustdave at hotmail.com (David Ashley ) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:13:24 +0000 Subject: [MOG] Rant - U500 Message-ID: I would like to add the u1250 to the list of perfect off road trucks -David 87 u1250 -----Original Message----- From: Unimog Mitchell Sent: 8/28/2010 12:56:17 AM To: Mog Mailing List Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 When I was a "newbie" trying to decide what flavor of Mog to buy, Jack Russell told me, "Enjoy looking around at all the toys, but if you want an off road truck, you will eventually settle on a U1300L. Get one of the ex BW models." I guess I agree with Bob's pronouncement below. m3 Mark Mitchell San Diego, Ca. KI6IO 1988 U1300L On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Bob Ragain wrote: > U-1300L, best Unimog ever made :-) > Bob > > --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Paul wrote: > >> From: Paul >> Subject: Re: [MOG] Rant - U500 >> To: "Mog Mailing List" >> Date: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 8:41 PM >> I'm liking my 23 year old 1300L more >> and more everyday when I hear this >> stuff... >> >> Paul >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Mog mailing list Mog at tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/listinfo/mog_tx4x4.com http://tx4x4.com/mailman/options/mog_tx4x4.com brought to you by http://www.installer.com From tenn404mogger at yahoo.com Fri Aug 27 20:35:51 2010 From: tenn404mogger at yahoo.com (Bob Ragain) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [MOG] Nice Alaskan Camper! In-Reply-To: <163760.97455.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <689574.23412.qm@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Very nice Don, Thanks for sharing the info with us. My old '70 Alaskan is really jealous now.... Bob --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Don Miller wrote: > From: Don Miller > Subject: Re: [MOG] Nice Alaskan Camper! > To: "Mog Mailing List" > Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 5:57 PM > It's mine. It's going on a U500 > stretched to 4200mm (camper frame is 17.5') - if > I can every get to AC to pick it up. > The size isn't as dramatic as it seems. the main cabin is > about 9 feet with the > space that's normally under the cab area filled in. So the > cabin area is not as > big as the regular Alaskan 10'. > It's a pretty straight forward Alaskan. Two differences are > that it takes a > normal 10" spring mattress, and the interior height is 5" > taller than normal. > Camper height is designed to be close to the top of the > cab. > > From twlane57 at gmail.com Fri Aug 27 20:42:19 2010 From: twlane57 at gmail.com (terry lane) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:42:19 -0700 Subject: [MOG] Greetings from Los Alamos, NM In-Reply-To: References: <8AE9F4E6-CC80-433E-A9A8-6C77BCC850B2@yahoo.com> Message-ID: MM--I'll bet you a dollar--Bill is driving the 1017A and Kath is driving the mog. TL :) On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Unimog Mitchell wrote: > Bill: > > How are you getting the new truck home? > > m3 > Mark Mitchell > San Diego, Ca. > KI6IO > 1988 U1300L > >